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The Committee received report ES/2289. Councillor Vince Langdon-Morris, Cabinet Member with responsibility for Resources and Value for Money, introduced the report. The report contained the Provisional Audit Results Report for the 2023/24 Statement of Accounts including the 2023/24 Value for Money commentary, the Provisional Statement of Accounts for 2023/24 and the Final Annual Governance Statement (AGS) 2023/24. In order to meet the backstop date of 28th February 2025 for completion of all 2023/24 audits, these reports and statements were being presented to this committee provisionally, inclusive of all noted amendments, pending EY’s Final Audit Result. Although a disclaimed opinion was anticipated, due to the timescale pressures presented by the backstop, EY still must conduct further review work prior to issuing the Final Audits Results report.
The Chair invited questions.
Councillor Lynch stated this was a continuation of issues at the last meeting with EY and they were not delivering despite promising to do so. Furthermore the fees are not yet established, despite the fact that we need to approve them. There has been an increase in fees of over £100k between 2022/23 to 2023/24.
Councillor Smithson agreed and stated that at some point this has to be accurate and signed off, especially before devolution and reorganisation.
The Chief Executive confirmed the consultation on local government reorganisation and devolution had been published today, and the reorganisation proposals had to be submitted by May with the new authorities going live in April 2028. Regarding the audit issues, this was ongoing over the UK.
The Chair asked if devolution and reorganisation and the impact of this had been considered by EY. Mr Riglar stated in terms of the system going forward, this was heavily dependent on external factors such as devolution and reorganisation and it was difficult to predict what the result would be. The present broken audit system had been reset, and this is why the report did not provide full coverage. This was not unusual across local government at the moment. Areas where there was partial assurance related to the lack of coverage from the years which had been reset. The areas in the report that Councillor Lynch had referred to would not be finished completely due to this reset. At some point work had to be cut off.
The Chair agreed this was a national dilemma, local authorities needed a greater choice and say in their audit so they did not end up with watered down work.
Councillor Lynch referred to fees and asked if these could be withheld while the audit had not been delivered. The Chief Finance Officer confirmed that Public Sector Audit Appointments (PSAA) was reviewing fees in light of the reduced work to establish what was an appropriate fee. There were over 700 audits to be considered so this would take some time. The Value for Money fee had been agreed at around £22,000. The complete fee had not been paid for 22/23 and 23/24, only for work that had been done, the full fees would not be paid until the PSAA review. The Chair asked that the committee were kept informed of the reviewed fees.
Councillor Lynch stated he felt the Chair and Chief Finance Officer should not be required to sign off on incomplete accounts and asked if the Committee could recommend that the accounts were only signed off for completed areas. The Chief Executive stated he and the Chief Finance Officer would be writing to EY and the PSAA to complain about the issues and the consistent underinvestment that had resulted in this situation. The Committee could not recommend that the accounts were signed partially, as this was already a disclaimed opinion. The Chair agreed that this was frustrating, and asked that the letter also be signed by the Committee.
On the proposal of Councillor Thompson, seconded by Councillor Molyneux it was
RESOLVED
That the Audit and Governance Committee:
1. Delegated authority to the S151 Officer, in consultation with the Chair of Audit and Governance Committee, to approve the Statement of Accounts for 2023/24 by 28thFebruary 2025 following the release of EY’s Final Audit Results report.
2. Noted the changes to the Statement of Accounts which occurred between the draft and provisional accounts for 2023/24.